Genuine Parelli Natural Performer. Was NEVER ridden in, ever! It has only been sat in. The owner told me that it was never on a horse. I had mistakenly stated that it was “sat in only 2X”. So, it has been sat in a few times in my store and has not been in on a horse. No one has taken it on trial as of yet, so it has not been on a horse as far as my shop goes. So really it is new! Standard gullet , brass rigging and hardware, Equiflex Tree, made by the Pullman Saddle Co in Germany. The lady who owns it doesn’t know the seat size from when she bought it but she is a PETITE LADY. I don’t know exactly how to measure it…. I just sat in the saddle and. I ride in a 14 seat in my barrel racing saddle which is supposed to be a pretty snug fit. Sitting in this Parelli saddle. 4″, 14 1/2″ or 15 seat because of the bucking rolls. Most likely a 14″ or 14.5″. My legs are pretty long and the stirrup leathers only go as long as I need them to go, and will not go any longer. So, if you are a taller person than me, you would not be able to make these stirrup leathers long enough for your legs. They couldn’t get it to work for the post office either so they told me to just list it UPS. Important note :: I will be out of town at a week long horse show beginning October 21 and returning October 31st. The item “Parelli Natural Performer Hornless Western Saddle 14 or 14.5 Seat” is in sale since Thursday, August 4, 2016. This item is in the category “Sporting Goods\Outdoor Sports\Equestrian\Western Saddles & Tack\Saddles”. The seller is “nc01girl” and is located in Apex, North Carolina. This item can be shipped to United States.